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::Wasn't he a bank robber in his younger day in OTL? At least I think the mugshot we have of him in the TL-191 section was for armed robbery or something similar rather than for political activities. [[User:ML4E|ML4E]] ([[User talk:ML4E|talk]]) 19:23, November 22, 2014 (UTC)
 
::Wasn't he a bank robber in his younger day in OTL? At least I think the mugshot we have of him in the TL-191 section was for armed robbery or something similar rather than for political activities. [[User:ML4E|ML4E]] ([[User talk:ML4E|talk]]) 19:23, November 22, 2014 (UTC)
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:::He was. I like the idea of his OTL activities being referenced somehow. Obviously, he can't get caught (well, maybe as a juvie--that can get buried) but it could be interesting. [[User:TR|TR]] ([[User talk:TR|talk]]) 02:17, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

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It mentions Herbert Hoover's lack of charisma in comparison to the "folksy" Steele. I seem to recall Stalin being a pretty boring dude to listen to. Jelay14 20:43, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Well maybe the changed circumstances of his upbringing changed that, but not his innate desire to tyrannize. You'd expect something to be different as a result of, what was it, fifty-three years of his life under radically different circumstances? Turtle Fan 04:36, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
Four years later I reviewed and revised. Steele isn't depicted as a particularly interesting speaker in the story, but we learn that his campaign is utterly relentless, with people stumping for him and posting bill and passing out leaflets, etc. There's a flip remark to the effect that couples can't even have sex without someone else jumping into their bed telling them to vote Steele. TR (talk) 22:43, November 20, 2014 (UTC)
Sounds more like life after his rise to power. If he lacked charisma, I wonder how he got so many people to campaign so hard for him? Hatred of Hoover, while a powerful motivator, didn't give Roosevelt that kind of passionate following in OTL. If he was using coercion, the people he was coercing would not have been nearly so enthusiastic or diligent. Ruling through fear is the real Stalin's MO, of course, but one can only instill so much of that when one is not yet in power. Really the only thing I can see having that kind of an effect under those circumstances is money, lots and lots of it. Maybe HT will have him rob a bank? Actually, I would not be surprised if he had Stalin form an alliance with John Dillinger or Bonnie and Clyde or someone like that. Turtle Fan (talk) 03:55, November 22, 2014 (UTC)
Wasn't he a bank robber in his younger day in OTL? At least I think the mugshot we have of him in the TL-191 section was for armed robbery or something similar rather than for political activities. ML4E (talk) 19:23, November 22, 2014 (UTC)
He was. I like the idea of his OTL activities being referenced somehow. Obviously, he can't get caught (well, maybe as a juvie--that can get buried) but it could be interesting. TR (talk) 02:17, November 23, 2014 (UTC)