Can we please have this and hist refs unlocked? There are quite a number of significant additions I can add to both from Household Gods.JonathanMarkoff (talk) 05:14, March 3, 2017 (UTC)
Lope de Vega[]
I wonder if LdV should be removed from this list, since there's no useful info that can't be found in his own article.JonathanMarkoff (talk) 18:27, March 16, 2017 (UTC)
- The purpose of the page is sufficiently broad that I think is appropriate to leave him in place. TR (talk) 19:19, March 16, 2017 (UTC)
- Actually, we've just axed Christopher Marlowe from this list for the exact same reasons I suggested axing Vega. Even moreso, because I can't think of any non-RB reference to Vega in HT's work, whereas Marlowe at least gets the two repeated quotes.JonathanMarkoff (talk) 19:49, October 27, 2017 (UTC)
Christopher Marlowe[]
Given the additions to the Marlowe article, I repeat my contention that this sub-section is no longer needed. ML4E (talk) 16:26, October 24, 2017 (UTC)
- Everything does seem to have been safely carried over, leaving nothing worth repeating.JonathanMarkoff (talk) 16:28, October 24, 2017 (UTC)
James Cameron, Dudley Nichols[]
These subarticles don't really add anything to the information in their movies' own articles.JonathanMarkoff (talk) 15:29, July 29, 2018 (UTC)
- Neither does your mom! Oh, snap! Turtle Fan (talk) 02:43, July 30, 2018 (UTC)
Aristophanes[]
I see Johnathan has moved Aristophanes from Lit. Ref. to here in Performance Arts Ref. I disagree since the sub-section deals with his bio and references to two plays. Aristophanes is a playwright or creator of plays, not a play. I have restored him to Lit. Ref. for the moment until this is resolved. I am pissed at Jonathan for making changes without discussion. ML4E (talk) 18:25, October 31, 2018 (UTC)
- That this page would include "creators" was something present when it was first put up, so I don't have a problem with him being here. Unless we want to revisit the purpose of this page, which I am also willing to do. TR (talk) 19:07, October 31, 2018 (UTC)
- I think it's best to leave him where he was. As for Jonathan's continued bad behavior, the solution is a simple one, and we would gain far, far more by it than we would lose. Turtle Fan (talk) 22:39, October 31, 2018 (UTC)
Beverley Cross, Dudley Nichols[]
I don't see what these two add to the list, since the articles on their movies should be sufficient.Matthew Babe Stevenson (talk) 12:03, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Samuel Beckett[]
What purpose does his section accomplish?Matthew Babe Stevenson (talk) 18:57, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Low-value sections[]
See above points on Cross, Nichols, and Beckett.
John Tucker Battle's section is probably unneeded too. We could add a lit com to Invaders from Minerva, saying "Invaders from Minerva may be an analog of Invaders from Mars, an iconic 1953 "b-movie" noted for its cheap special effects and campy storyline."Matthew Babe Stevenson (talk) 19:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
We didn't remove the sections you listed a year ago What makes you think we're going to do anything with Battle? TR (talk) 21:37, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Acid Spitting Dragons[]
I believe the acid spitting dragons in "None So Blind" have a much older origin than Jurassic Park, namely Dungeons & Dragons. Turtledove has stated he has been playing it for decades and so would be aware of such dragons from the game. I have changed the Performance Arts entries to reflect this. However, I am willing to discuss it if people disagree. ML4E (talk) 22:16, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- I find your suggestion more likely/plausible than the JP connection. TR (talk) 22:21, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. I think the JP connection was pretty tenuous. Turtle Fan (talk) 06:12, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- I disagree. The key phrase is "small theropod-like creature." That suggests a Dilophosaur or a Dromaeosaur. From my snap research, the D&D dragons are conventional giant winged quadrupeds with no theropod-like qualities.Matthew Babe Stevenson (talk) 09:56, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- The article as written here uses that phrase. I've never read the story, but by using the search-inside function at Amazon, the word "therapod" doesn't appear in the story. Since it's a story about dragons published in anthology of dragon stories, it seems far more likely and rational that HT would harken back to actual venom-spitting dragons, not a dinosaur. TR (talk) 16:36, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
"Small theropod-like creature" comes from what MBS wrote in the JP subsection, presumably to imply the connection more strongly. The story itself describes the creatures as "large green-gray lizards that were somewhat larger and heavier then men". I have edited the entry in D&D accordingly to eliminate MBS' specious point. The idea of dinosaur like creatures being dragons is an old one predating JP by a considerable amount. ML4E (talk) 17:41, 24 February 2024 (UTC)