Turtledove
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  • gulp* Don't think I care for this USP story. Turtle Fan 12:34, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
It works. Rather creepy, all in all. TR 15:07, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Dear God, this is creepy as hell. Elefuntboy 22:35, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Jesus the vampire? KICK ASS. Jelay14 23:32, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I find myself wondering why he wrote it. Is he just trying to amuse or grinding an axe against the Church? Come to think of it, the other two stories covered here are not too flattering, either. Turtle Fan 06:27, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

You'll just have to read the actual story and decide for yourself. TR 15:44, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
I suppose I would. I also suppose I won't. Certain taboos still hold sway over me. Turtle Fan 18:51, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Where can Custer find said story? Jelay14 17:25, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
The Secret History of Vampires, edited by Darrell Schweitzer. TR 17:29, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
There is a Canadian independent film from 2001 called Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter, the title of which might have inspired HT. Or maybe not. Jelay, you can find the bibliographic details in the article for the story itself. ML4E 17:30, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Roman?[]

Jonathan added Jesus and St. Peter as Romans and added the bolded part of the category description to read: "The following characters originate from city-state of Rome and its Republic and Empire". I recall vaguely that Paul the Apostle had Roman citizenship while St. Peter didn't leading to different styles of execution. My question is twofold: first is the category for just citizens or is it for all legal residents of the City, Republic and/or Empire? and second would the Jews of Judea be automatically place in the category? ML4E (talk) 20:30, November 14, 2015 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the intent was for people who had citizenship. As for the Judeans, I think they'd be provinciales, not citizens. TR (talk) 23:50, November 14, 2015 (UTC)
Paul was a citizen, Peter was not. Jesus certainly was not. Rewriting the category so it refers to citizens explicitly would not be a bad idea, I think.
While Jesus was alive, Judea's legal ruler was Herod Antipas, a Friend of Rome. The country was heavily occupied by Roman legions but remained a nominally sovereign client state. I think. I'm not sure. Peter died in 67, which was also the first year of the Jewish War. In the last year of that war, Judea was annexed outright, obviously a change in its legal status. Turtle Fan (talk) 01:48, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

"The Great White Way"[]

Get rid of the "Deaths by Firearm (Fictional Work)" category. Same reasoning as in Category talk:1840s Deaths (Fictional Work)‎‎ page. I see you have not added Category:21st-Century Deaths (Fictional Work) cat which would be required for consistency to your argument. ML4E (talk) 18:45, August 29, 2019 (UTC)

Treason?[]

Did Jesus' conviction amount to one for treason?Matthew Babe Stevenson (talk) 07:06, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Probably not against Rome, since I don't think he was a citizen. Maybe against Judea, since he was charged with proclaiming himself king of the Jews (a threat to Herod), but that's kind of a stretch. If memory serves, the pharisees were much angrier about his heretical religious views and actions, which weren't necessarily going to bring down Judea or Rome. TR (talk) 22:22, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
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