Horatio Seymour
Historical Figure
Nationality: United States
Date of Birth: 1810
Date of Death: 1886
Cause of Death: Natural causes
Religion: Protestantism
Occupation: Lawyer, Politician
Spouse: Mary Bleecker Seymour
Political Party: Democratic Party
Turtledove Appearances:
The Guns of the South
POD: January 17, 1864
Type of Appearance: Contemporary references
Horatio Seymour (May 31, 1810 - February 12, 1886) was an American politician. He was Governor of New York State in 1853-4 and 1863-4.

Seymour was a so-called War Democrat who supported the Union's military cause; however, during his second term as governor, he became a leading Northern opponent of President Abraham Lincoln's administration during the American Civil War. Seymour protested Lincoln's restriction of civil liberties during the Civil War, as well as the Emancipation Proclamation and the Union's military draft. He advocated the vigorous prosecution of the war, but protested against the extensive use of war powers by Lincoln.

Seymour also ran for President in the 1868 election with Francis Preston Blair Jr. as his running mate. The ticket lost to Republican candidate Ulysses S. Grant and his running mate Schuyler Colfax by a margin of 214-80 in the electoral college.

Horatio Seymour in The Guns of the SouthEdit


Horatio Seymour was able to gain the Democratic Party's presidential nomination in the immediate aftermath of the Second American Revolution, running on a ticket with Clement Vallandigham. Seymour narrowly defeated Abraham Lincoln in the 1864 presidential election. The election was a close one, and it was over a week after the election before Seymour's victory was determined. Seymour was able to carry 138 electoral votes from ten states.

Under Seymour, the United States shifted its focus away from its southern border towards its northern one. Eventually, the U.S. invaded the Canadas, and began a war with Britain in 1866.

Comment on Southern VictoryEdit

It was once suggested that Seymour also defeated Lincoln in 1864 in the Southern Victory series. The primary proponent was Steven H. Silver, who maintains Harry Turtledove's website and established this wiki. Thus, the administrators of this wiki have for some time supported this position.

However, as no canonical evidence was ever produced, the administrators have reconsidered this position. In light of this wiki's anti-speculation policy, all references to Horatio Seymour defeating Abraham Lincoln in the 1864 election in TL-191 have been removed.

See AlsoEdit

Political offices
Preceded by
Washington Hunt
Governor of New York
Succeeded by
Myron H. Clark
Preceded by
Edwin D. Morgan
Governor of New York
Succeeded by
Reuben E. Fenton
Party political offices
Preceded by
George McClellan
Democratic Party presidential candidate
1868 (lost)
Succeeded by
Horace Greeley
Political offices
(The Guns of the South)
Preceded by
Abraham Lincoln
President of the United States
Succeeded by
Incumbent at novel's end, 1868
Party political offices
(The Guns of the South)
Preceded by
Stephen Douglas (Northern), John Breckinridge (Southern)
Democratic Presidential candidate
1864 (won)
Succeeded by
Most recent

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