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I'm confused about Alaska--It wasn't what I've ever thought of as imperialism. You've given the qualifier of territory, but wouldn't that require us to add every US state except the original thirteen? Turtle Fan 04:55, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't know. It was already in there. TR 05:00, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
If only one or more of us had enough power around here to reverse things that don't make sense to us and that no one can remember why it was done . . . Turtle Fan 16:40, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

So what do you think of 75.68.122.13 putting Alaska back almost six years later? ML4E (talk) 22:03, January 8, 2015 (UTC)

I removed it, and stated reasons on the Alaska page before I saw this comment. TR (talk) 23:48, January 8, 2015 (UTC)

Territories[]

We have Guam, Puerto Rico, Midway, Wake Island, and Howland Island. Any objection to move them into a "Territories of the United States" category. We could then create a broader "U.S. Political Subdivisions" and move both the Territories category and the US States category there. TR (talk) 21:41, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

That works. We might want to include the Philippines as well; your namesake certainly did. Turtle Fan (talk) 14:44, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
What would you do with this and the ATL Am. Empire cats? ML4E (talk) 15:27, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
I would leave the rest of the categories alone. I'm mainly interested in the territories that are still in fact legal territories. TR (talk) 16:48, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
The phrase "unorganized, unincorporated territory of the United States" comes up quite often in those articles. Maybe we should differentiate between that and a more ordinary territory? In the category description, if nowhere else? Turtle Fan (talk) 18:47, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
I like the idea of entitling the category "Unincorporated Territories of the United States". We can bypass the whole "territory to state" pattern of westward expansion; HT has engaged that history just enough that a more specific title probably will avoid confusion. TR (talk) 19:10, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
All right, but doesn't that exclude PR and Guam? Turtle Fan (talk) 19:26, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
Nope, they are also unincorporated. TR (talk) 19:54, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
Huh, shows what I know. Turtle Fan (talk) 03:43, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
All right, sounds reasonable to me. ML4E (talk) 18:03, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
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