I'm just saving this JS section here. See the Talk:Clement Attlee, 1st Earl Attlee for further details.
Prime Minister Term Party
Neville Chamberlain 1937-1940 Conservative Party
Winston Churchill 1940-1946 Conservative Party
Clement Attlee 1946-? Labour Party
Neville Chamberlain's efforts to appease Adolf Hitler in 1938 merely delayed the inevitable Second World War, which broke out in September, 1939. As Germany drove across Europe and subdued France, Chamberlain was forced to resign. He was succeeded by Winston Churchill, who was forced to ally with two tyrants, President Joe Steele of the U.S. and Premier Leon Trotsky of the Soviet Union to defeat the rampaging tyranny of Hitler.
While the war in Europe ended in 1945, fighting continued aga…
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Here's something I never thought to see.
To answer this question, the east coast of Australia is in the grip of an Antartic Vortex.
In plane English... IT'S BLOODY COLD DOWN HERE!!!Read more >
So, as a consequence of have liked Tor.Com and Alternate History.com on Facebook, I am informed that another HT story will be appearing on tor.com sometime in the future. The story is called "Cayos in the Stream". Here is the image for the story:
Not sure what else, if anything, we can glean from that pic. It's a nice one, though. TR (talk) 21:34, May 16, 2013 (UTC)Read more >
The Reconstruction Era
After the Second Great War,or as it is known in these modern times:GW2,the defunct CSA was decimated.Most cities and towns(like Richmond and Lexington)were heavily damaged.A whole generation of men were lost in the fighting.The Negro population were horrendously reduced by the genocidal policies of Jake Featherston. In other words,the South was in tatters.
And so,the Democratic US president Harry Truman(lead the country from 1948 to 1950) was the first one to start the rebuilding of the South...in the image of the US.Truman realized the South must be developed again to truly join the US of A.Without this visionary man,the process to allow people in the South for the US Congress and full-fledged citizens of the US would…Read more >
Why I think Turtledove Is betraying his loyal Readership Turtledovians of the world,revolt!You have nothing to lose but your boredom!
Hi,I'm Zhukov15 and I'm here to tell the truth.Truth is,Turtledove is betraying us.How you may ask.By neglecting Southern Victory.Ever since I finished Settling Accounts,I am hungering for more.But more isn't coming.For some reason,Turtledove hasn't continued the series like he should have,which would have garnered him more recognition.I know most of you are gonna disagree with me but SV is the work that makes the most of readers want more!But he isn't obliging them!Why you may ask again.Because he paying more attention to upstart new series.In my eyes,that is a serious betrayal.
We all know the series ends wit…Read more >
Hi I was wondering if any of you when the latest turtledove book is coming out.
- July 23, 2013. TR (talk) 00:00, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
so as it says in the title, how do you think this should continue, so comment, i know there isnt a lot of people on this wiki, but tell me your ideas, i might be able to make fan fiction with themRead more >
Around 90% of the Blacks still left in The South (then CSA) in 1941 were killed during the war. A few thousand Blacks were actually still living in Richmond when the US army took over the city in 1944. Most Blacks who survived the war in exile decided to remain abroad; however, a small number returned to The South. Additionally, approximately 15,000 Blacks survived the concentration camps or survived by going into hiding. The overwhelming majority wished to emigrate and lived in US-administered refugee camps, remaining isolated from The Southern society. After 1947, most left The South; however, 10,000 to 15,000 remained, forming the basis of a new Black community. In 1950 they founded their unitary representative organization, the Central…Read more >
Here's another fanfic based on the Worldwar series: Worldwar: Discovering the Balance. This takes in the Stargate Universe in which the Race were 60 years late in arriving to Earth, but the invasion is fortunately averted as SG-1 with Asgard-based spaceships engaged Atvar at gunship diplomacy. In which SG-1 negotiated for the Race to leave Earth alone and settle another desert-like planet discovered by Stargate Command or their home planet is nuked with energy weapons from orbit.
I really love the scenario of the story as to what if the Race had to deal with modern day Earth, in this case the Stargate Earth. Instead of outright destroying the Race, Earth's various governments decide not to and be simply "neighbors" with the Race, and a lengt…Read more >
Last year, I read a AH story on Fanfic.com and posted on the Spacebattle forum and http://counter-factual.net, which pokes a crossover with Worldwar with SM Stirling's Domination of the Draka and John Ringo's Legacy of the Aldenata series. It takes with the Lizards having their ass kicked hard with the much more technological prowess of humankind and the notorious Domination of Draka during WW2 and finally evicted in the 1960s thanks to a Draka-made biological virus laced in ginger. By the 21st Century, the story picks up with the Legacy of the Aldenata series with humanity offered by the Galactic Federation (in which they had also had approach the "Race") in fighting against aggressive and locust-like aliens known as the Posleen.
Personally I …Read more >
Our recent addition of elections and the prospect of HT giving us some changes in SV and TWPE down the pike has prompted me to play with this comparison idea again. I'm doing it here so we don't have unwanted/unready articles. Comment or not.
Term OTL The Hot War (POD: November, 1950) Worldwar (POD: June, 1942) The War That Came Early (POD: September, 1938) Joe Steele (POD: Summer, 1932) Must and Shall (POD: July, 1864) The Guns of the South (POD: January, 1864) Southern Victory (POD: September, 1862)
March, 1861 to March, 1865
Abraham LincolnSame as OTL Same as OTL Same as OTL Same as OTL Abraham Lincoln March, 1861-April, 1864 Hannibal Hamlin April, 1864-18??Unknown Unknown
March, 1865 to March, 1869
Abraham Lincoln March, 1865-April, 1865 Andrew Jo…
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Might want to continue the discussion here. ML4E 04:28, March 28, 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, good idea.
- So if I'm reading your last description correctly, the Bloc controls enough votes that anyone who doesn't have a majority government needs to include them in the equation, and that means making overtures. But if a leader gets too cozy with the Bloc, Anglophone voters will punish his party?
- Actually, if the Bloc is so committed to seperatism, how does it have MPs at all? Don't they need to take an oath of allegiance to the crown? The nearest equivalent I can think of in the Commonwealth is Sinn Fein: However many seats they win (five in last year's election) remain vacant because they will not swear their loyalty to a nation they are desperate to ge…
I haven't used this. Thought I'd give it a whirl.
It seems the AHL better board does still exist: http://thebetterboard.yuku.com/directory. In case anyone cares. TR 21:58, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
- I wonder how many hours of my life I spent running those boards and dissecting TL-191 novels, with you lot being my other big social circle. Seems like it was another lifetime when I was a messageboard administrator. Jelay14 03:54, January 27, 2011 (UTC)
- I just reread a chat I'd had with Mak in March '06 in which I insisted McClellan could never have been elected President. He pointed out, much more circumspectly and politely than usual (The Great Irish Flame War was only two months and change away) that I was really grasping at straws to find ways of…
I have to put this topic up given the crap-load of that TD has been using throughout his work. So give a comment on rather TD's writings amuses you or annoy the hell out of you and think that he is going senile like a "grand pappy" reminiscing on old "wise" sayings.
Here's some mediocre liners from Supervolcano I found on Goodreads.com.:
It didn't feel too cold once he got used to it. He'd been in pools that were worse. What it would feel like come February was bound to be a different question, but it wasn't February, thank god.
He muttered a stream of obscenities as he went. Maybe they were what made his breath smoke. More likely, it was just the cold.
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I'm posting this because HT keeps having SEX in many of his works. And I want comments on how you think about it.--Drgyen 00:18, November 27, 2010 (UTC)Read more >
I just finished the third book Liberating Atlantis, thus completing the trilogy. I'm not sure if anyone will agree witth me, but I believe the series thus far holds great promise. What the series is to me is not so much a timeline of a mythical 8th continent, but the legacy of a famous family. Edward Radcliffe helped found the first settlement in Atlantis. Richard Radcliffe killed the Earl of Warwick (a.k.a. the "King" of Atlantis). Red Rodney Radcliffe was one of the most feared pirates of Avalon. William Radcliff ended the Golden Age of Piracy once and for all by sacking Avalon and killing Red Rodney. Victor Radcliff helped the English win the French and Spanish War, and later led the Atlanteans to victory in the Atlantean War of I…Read more >
Personally, I really enjoyed the Timeline 191, or Southern Victory, series by Harry Turtledove. My favorite segments of the series were the Great War trilogy and Settling Accounts quadrilogy (That is the correct term, right? Quadrilogy?) However, as much as I enjoyed the series, I'd like to see where Mr. Turtledove takes it from here. We end the series with a sort of Cold War between Germany, the United States, and Japan. But what will be the result? A war in which two of the powers team up to conquer the other, or will it remain a three-way Cold War? Not to mention the new situation in North America. What will be the result of suddenly ending over 80 years of independence for the Confederate States of America? Obviously it will be a…Read more >