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Forum:Countries as categories

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	I propose that we create supercategories that relate to certain countries, much as we have the various war categories. Obviously, not every country would need a category. But for example, a United States category would include the U.S., and then Americans, U.S. States, various institutions related to the U.S., like the president. This would be more about user friendliness than anything. We probably wouldn't need to worry too much about stories, but we can discuss that if we adopt my proposal. [[User:TR\|TR]] 02:50, November 16, 2009 (UTC)		I propose that we create supercategories that relate to certain countries, much as we have the various war categories. Obviously, not every country would need a category. But for example, a United States category would include the U.S., and then Americans, U.S. States, various institutions related to the U.S., like the president. This would be more about user friendliness than anything. We probably wouldn't need to worry too much about stories, but we can discuss that if we adopt my proposal. [[User:TR\|TR]] 02:50, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

-	I'm assuming by the lack of response that no one things much of this idea. [[User:TR\|TR]] 02:16, November 21, 2009 (UTC)	+	I'm assuming by the lack of response that no one thinks much of this idea. [[User:TR\|TR]] 02:16, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
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		+	:In my case it means I somehow missed it. The Recent Changes pages have been filling up so damned fast lately, after all. But I love the idea. In fact, I've lately been toying with the idea of a supercategory overhaul; ideally I'd like to see enough to contain every category we have, so I'm not one for objecting to the creation of new supercategories, not in the least! [[User:Turtle Fan\|Turtle Fan]] 02:32, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Forum:Countries as categories

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	I propose that we create supercategories that relate to certain countries, much as we have the various war categories. Obviously, not every country would need a category. But for example, a United States category would include the U.S., and then Americans, U.S. States, various institutions related to the U.S., like the president. This would be more about user friendliness than anything. We probably wouldn't need to worry too much about stories, but we can discuss that if we adopt my proposal. [[User:TR\|TR]] 02:50, November 16, 2009 (UTC)		I propose that we create supercategories that relate to certain countries, much as we have the various war categories. Obviously, not every country would need a category. But for example, a United States category would include the U.S., and then Americans, U.S. States, various institutions related to the U.S., like the president. This would be more about user friendliness than anything. We probably wouldn't need to worry too much about stories, but we can discuss that if we adopt my proposal. [[User:TR\|TR]] 02:50, November 16, 2009 (UTC)
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		+	I'm assuming by the lack of response that no one things much of this idea. [[User:TR\|TR]] 02:16, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Brownsville, Tennessee

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'''Brownsville''' is the county seat of Haywood County, [[Tennessee]].  The city is named after Jacob Jennings Brown, an officer who served during The War of 1812.

In 1864, Brownsville was a firmly pro-[[Confederate]] town.  Several regiments under the command of General [[Nathan Bedford Forrest (Fort Pillow)|Nathan Bedford Forrest]] rendezvoused in Brownsville just prior to their [[Battle of Fort Pillow|attack]] on the [[United States|Union]] garrison at [[Fort Pillow (Fort)|Fort Pillow]].  They also picked up a guide in the town, [[W.J. Shaw]].
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Robert McCulloch

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-	McCulloch had earned the nickname "Black Bob" from the men of the [[Second Missouri Cavalry (C.S.)]]. He drove his men hard on the march from [[Jackson, Tennesee\|Jackson]] to [[Brownsville]], [[Tennessee]].	+	McCulloch had earned the nickname "Black Bob" from the men of the [[Second Missouri Cavalry (C.S.)]]. He drove his men hard on the march from [[Jackson, Tennesee\|Jackson]] to [[Brownsville, Tennessee]].

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Mars

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	==Mars in ''[[The Disunited States of America]]''==		==Mars in ''[[The Disunited States of America]]''==
-	'''Mars''' had been visited by [[Prussia#Prussia in The Disunited States of America\|Prussia]] and [[California (Disunited States)\|California]].	+	'''Mars''' had been visited by [[Prussia#Prussia in The Disunited States of America\|Prussia]] and [[California (Disunited States)\|California]].
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		+	== Mars in "[[The Star and the Rockets]]" ==
		+	[[Joe Bauman]] was initially afraid the [[Joe Bauma's alien fans\|three aliens]] he met at his [[Texaco]] station were from '''Mars'''.  Reading his mind, the lead alien assured him they were from some place much further away from Mars.
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	==Mars in ''[[A World of Difference]]''==		==Mars in ''[[A World of Difference]]''==

Joe Bauman

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	==Bauman in "[[The Star and the Rockets]]"==		==Bauman in "[[The Star and the Rockets]]"==
-	On what should have been a quiet winter's night in 1954, Bauman was interrupted from watching [[Milton Berle]] on TV to gas up an 88 Oldsmobile. Three very strange men were in the car. The driver, who proved to be an extraterrestrial, realized that Bauman was, like himself, a man of the star (Texaco) and of the rockets (the team). He behaved as though he were giving Bauman some sort of supernatural gift.	+	On what should have been a quiet winter's night in 1954, '''Joe Bauman''' was interrupted from watching [[Milton Berle]] on TV to gas up an 88 Oldsmobile. [[Joe Bauman's alien fans\|Three very strange men]] were in the car. The driver, who proved to be an extraterrestrial, realized that Bauman was, like himself, a man of the star (Texaco) and of the rockets (the team). He behaved as though he were giving Bauman some sort of supernatural gift.

-	Bauman's memory of that night faded during his record-breaking 1954 season. However, at the final double-header of the season, when Bauman hit his 70th, 71st, and 72nd home runs to take sole possession of the world record for single-season round-trippers, the extraterrestrials were present once again.	+	Bauman's memory of that night faded during his record-breaking 1954 season. However, at the final double-header of the season, when Bauman hit his 70th, 71st, and 72nd home runs to take sole possession of the world record for single-season round-trippers, the extraterrestrials were present once again.

-	Bauman always remembered his "fans." He never spoke of them during the rest of his life in Roswell, and he never laughed at flying saucer jokes, even after the rest of Roswell embraced their extraterrestrial reputation. [[User:Turtle Fan\|Turtle Fan]] 04:10, November 19, 2009 (UTC)	+	Bauman always remembered his "fans." He never spoke of them during the rest of his life in Roswell, and he never laughed at flying saucer jokes, even after the rest of Roswell embraced their extraterrestrial reputation.

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Franklin D. Roosevelt

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	Roosevelt first rose to prominence, ironically, as Secretary of War in Democrat President [[Herbert Hoover (Southern Victory)\|Herbert Hoover]]'s cabinet. His Socialist views on domestic policy were out of step with Hoover's lassiez-faire approach to government. For example, Roosevelt was receptive to Colonel [[Abner Dowling]]'s idea of make-work projects in [[Utah (Southern Victory)\|Utah]]. Hoover, on the other hand, emphatically shot it down. However, Roosevelt's views on foreign policy were perfectly aligned with the Democrats, particularly as it applied to the [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]].		Roosevelt first rose to prominence, ironically, as Secretary of War in Democrat President [[Herbert Hoover (Southern Victory)\|Herbert Hoover]]'s cabinet. His Socialist views on domestic policy were out of step with Hoover's lassiez-faire approach to government. For example, Roosevelt was receptive to Colonel [[Abner Dowling]]'s idea of make-work projects in [[Utah (Southern Victory)\|Utah]]. Hoover, on the other hand, emphatically shot it down. However, Roosevelt's views on foreign policy were perfectly aligned with the Democrats, particularly as it applied to the [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]].

-	Upon the election of [[Al Smith#Al Smith in Southern Victory\|Al Smith]] to the Presidency in 1936, Roosevelt was, to all appearences, demoted to Assistant Secretary of War. In fact, however, he willingly embraced relative obscurity as a kind of disguise, hiding from the Confederates the importance of what he was engaged on. As [[Jake Featherston]] of the Confederate States began saber-rattling, and war seemed imminent, Roosevelt was given the responsiblity of overseeing the United States [[superbomb]] project in [[Hanford (Southern Victory)\|Hanford]], [[Washington (Southern Victory)\|Washington]]. He was also the Administration's point man for dealing with Congresswoman [[Flora Blackford]], a critic of Smith, despite being a Socialist herself. It was Roosevelt who decided to tell Blackford about the classified project.	+	Upon the election of [[Al Smith#Al Smith in Southern Victory\|Al Smith]] to the Presidency in 1936, Roosevelt was, to all appearances, demoted to Assistant Secretary of War. In fact, however, he willingly embraced relative obscurity as a kind of disguise, hiding from the Confederates the importance of what he was engaged on. As [[Jake Featherston]] of the Confederate States began saber-rattling, and war seemed imminent, Roosevelt was given the responsiblity of overseeing the United States [[superbomb]] project in [[Hanford (Southern Victory)\|Hanford]], [[Washington (Southern Victory)\|Washington]]. He was also the Administration's point man for dealing with Congresswoman [[Flora Blackford]], a critic of Smith, despite being a Socialist herself. It was Roosevelt who decided to tell Blackford about the classified project.

	Roosevelt maintained that position throughout the Second Great War, even after Smith was killed, and [[Charles W. La Follette]] became president. Although the C.S. was the first country in North America to use a superbomb, detonating it in downtown [[Philadelphia (Southern Victory)\|Philadelphia]], Roosevelt's program produced two bombs for the U.S., accelerating U.S victory in 1944.		Roosevelt maintained that position throughout the Second Great War, even after Smith was killed, and [[Charles W. La Follette]] became president. Although the C.S. was the first country in North America to use a superbomb, detonating it in downtown [[Philadelphia (Southern Victory)\|Philadelphia]], Roosevelt's program produced two bombs for the U.S., accelerating U.S victory in 1944.

Talk:Inconsistencies in Turtledove's Work

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Molotov Cocktail:

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	::::I suppose that makes sense. Well, now I know when and where the term came about, anyway, and something of the circumstances, and both are more than I knew before. Obliged. [[User:Turtle Fan\|Turtle Fan]] 03:22, November 9, 2009 (UTC)		::::I suppose that makes sense. Well, now I know when and where the term came about, anyway, and something of the circumstances, and both are more than I knew before. Obliged. [[User:Turtle Fan\|Turtle Fan]] 03:22, November 9, 2009 (UTC)
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		+	==The Gap==
		+	Hamnet (and other characters) mention how difficult it would be to supply an army through the narrow, brine-filled gap. Their immediate response upon returning to their home country? Worrying about an invasion through the gap. - locked for editing so I can't edit the page

Richard Brevard Russell, Jr.

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-	\| Title=Richard Brevard Russell, Jr.	+	\|name = Richard Brevard Russell, Jr.
-	\| Image=RBRussell.jpg	+	\|image = RBRussell.jpg
-	\| Fictional or Historical=Historical	+	\|timeline = [[OTL]]
-	\| Story=[[Southern Victory]]	+	\|nationality = [[United States]]
-	\| Nationality=[[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]	+	\|birth = 1897
-	}}	+	\|death = 1971
-		+	\|cause of death = Emphysema
-	'''Richard Brevard Russell, Jr.''' (1897–1971) was an [[American]] [[Democratic]] politician. He served as Governor of [[Georgia (state)\|Georgia]] from 1931-1933 before being elected to the U. S. Senate in 1933, where he served until his death in 1971.	+	\|occupation = Lawyer, Politician
		+	\|affiliations = [[Democratic Party]]
		+	\|timeline 2 = [[Southern Victory]]
		+	\|appearance 2 = ''[[The Victorious Opposition]]''
		+	\|nationality 2 = [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]
		+	\|affiliations 2 = [[Freedom Party]]
		+	}}'''Richard Brevard Russell, Jr.''' (1897–1971) was an [[American]] [[Democratic]] politician. He served as Governor of [[Georgia (state)\|Georgia]] from 1931-1933 before being elected to the U. S. Senate in 1933, where he served until his death in 1971.

	==Richard Brevad Russell, Jr. in [[Southern Victory]]==		==Richard Brevad Russell, Jr. in [[Southern Victory]]==
-	'''Richard Brevard Russell, Jr.''' was a [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate]] politician from [[Georgia (state)\|Georgia]] and a staunch supporter of the [[Freedom Party]]. He served as [[President (CS-Southern Victory)\|President]] [[Jake Featherston]]'s ambassador to the [[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]]. On June 21, 1941, he delivered to US [[President (US-Southern Victory)\|President]] [[Al Smith#Al Smith in Southern Victory\|Al Smith]] an ultimatum demanding that Smith withdraw from all former Confederate territories ceded to the United States following the [[Great War]]. He was declared ''[[persona non grata]]'', as was his counterpart, US Ambassador to [[Richmond (Southern Victory)\|Richmond]], [[Jerry Voorhis]]. The next day, the [[Second Great War]] began.	+	'''Richard Brevard Russell, Jr.''' was a [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate]] politician from [[Georgia (state)\|Georgia]] and a staunch supporter of the [[Freedom Party]]. He served as [[President (CS-Southern Victory)\|President]] [[Jake Featherston]]'s ambassador to the [[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]]. On June 21, 1941, he delivered to US [[President (US-Southern Victory)\|President]] [[Al Smith#Al Smith in Southern Victory\|Al Smith]] an ultimatum demanding that Smith withdraw from all former Confederate territories ceded to the United States following the [[Great War]]. He was declared ''[[persona non grata]]'', as was his counterpart, US Ambassador to [[Richmond (Southern Victory)\|Richmond]], [[Jerry Voorhis]]. The next day, the [[Second Great War]] began.

	===Literary Note===		===Literary Note===
-	The Confederate ambassador to the US is known only as "Russell" and is identified as a Georgian. Based on these two facts and on Turtledove's penchant for including historical figures in the Southern Victory series, the editors of this Wikia are satisfied that Richard Russell is the man he had in mind.	+	The Confederate ambassador to the US is known only as "Russell" and is identified as a Georgian. Based on these two facts and on Turtledove's penchant for including historical figures in the Southern Victory series, the editors of this Wikia are satisfied that Richard Russell is the man he had in mind.

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John Russell, 1st Earl Russell

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-	\| Title=John Russell	+	\|name = John Russell
-	\| Image=Russell.jpg	+	\|image = Russell.jpg
-	\| Fictional or Historical=Historical	+	\|timeline = [[OTL]]
-	\| Story=[[Southern Victory]]	+	\|nationality = [[Britain]]
-	\| Nationality=[[Britain#Britain in Southern Victory\|Britain]]	+	\|religion = Church of England
		+	\|birth = 1792
		+	\|death = 1878
		+	\|cause of death = Natural causes
		+	\|occupation = Politician
		+	\|affiliations = British Whig Party
		+	Liberal Party
		+	\|timeline 2 = [[Southern Victory]]
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	'''John Russell, 1st Earl Russell, KG, GCMG, PC''' (1792–1878), known as Lord John Russell before 1861, was an [[English]] Whig and Liberal politician who served twice as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom in the mid-19th century.		'''John Russell, 1st Earl Russell, KG, GCMG, PC''' (1792–1878), known as Lord John Russell before 1861, was an [[English]] Whig and Liberal politician who served twice as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom in the mid-19th century.

	==John Russell in [[Southern Victory]]==		==John Russell in [[Southern Victory]]==
-	'''John Russell''' served aas Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs of [[Britain (Southern Victory)\|Britain]] under Prime Minister [[Henry Temple Palmerston#Henry Temple Palmerston in Southern Victory\|Henry Temple Palmerston]]. During his tenure, the [[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]] fought the [[War of Secession]], and he was directed by Lord Palmerston to offer to mediate between the US and the newly-recognized [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]. US [[President (US-Southern Victory)\|President]] [[Abraham Lincoln (Southern Victory)\|Abraham Lincoln]] reluctantly accepted his offer, ending the war and creating the Confederate States. Throughout the remainder of his tenure, Russell saw to it that the CS remained a close ally of Britain's.	+	'''John Russell''' served aas Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs of [[Britain (Southern Victory)\|Britain]] under Prime Minister [[Henry Temple Palmerston#Henry Temple Palmerston in Southern Victory\|Henry Temple Palmerston]]. During his tenure, the [[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]] fought the [[War of Secession]], and he was directed by Lord Palmerston to offer to mediate between the US and the newly-recognized [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]. US [[President (US-Southern Victory)\|President]] [[Abraham Lincoln (Southern Victory)\|Abraham Lincoln]] reluctantly accepted his offer, ending the war and creating the Confederate States. Throughout the remainder of his tenure, Russell saw to it that the CS remained a close ally of Britain's.
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Talk:Magdalena Rodriguez

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	::I'd seen those same spoilers. I was surprised, but I opted not to flip through on the theory that Hip was a newer POV, whereas the others had been around since AF, and maybe the reviewers just didn't care as much about Hip.		::I'd seen those same spoilers. I was surprised, but I opted not to flip through on the theory that Hip was a newer POV, whereas the others had been around since AF, and maybe the reviewers just didn't care as much about Hip.
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		+	:::I certainly didn't--care about him, that is. Wouldn't've been sad to see him go, but I do insist on completeness, so. . . .
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		+	:::Actually that was the first 191 book for which I sought out online spoilers. For whatever that's worth. [[User:Turtle Fan\|Turtle Fan]] 23:47, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

	::It's worth remembering that HT's view of what is "necessary" in his narrative is very different from our own (see our grumblings about HW). Personally, I felt Hip was "distinct" enough in his experiences that he was useful. Yes, Pinkard handled the administration, but Hip did the dirty work, so that was interesting dichotomy for a while, made more so by the convergence of every other POD on Tennessee and Georgia that took place after Hip killed himself. [[User:TR\|TR]] 22:09, November 20, 2009 (UTC)		::It's worth remembering that HT's view of what is "necessary" in his narrative is very different from our own (see our grumblings about HW). Personally, I felt Hip was "distinct" enough in his experiences that he was useful. Yes, Pinkard handled the administration, but Hip did the dirty work, so that was interesting dichotomy for a while, made more so by the convergence of every other POD on Tennessee and Georgia that took place after Hip killed himself. [[User:TR\|TR]] 22:09, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
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		+	:::I was always so annoyed by the way Hip behaved in the camp. People talk about Pinkard's great moral downfall, but, while he didn't seem like Rudolf Hess the minute he was introduced, he never really had any claim on a strong moral character that we saw to be corrupted. Hip on the other hand, much as I disliked him, had a good thick streak of decency, and I kept waiting for him to be outraged at what he was doing. So I waited, and waited, and then he's like "My God, what have I done? Better off myself and make room for Jorge!" in one breath. (And yes, TG needed all the characters it could get who weren't accompanying Morrell's push.)
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		+	:::Where ''was'' the Confederate outrage? Obviously the US had had a certain moral advantage over the CS from the beginning of the series, but the people on either side of the border weren't ''that'' different from one another; in the end they're all just folks. I couldn't swallow the CS characters' consciences being so atrophied that even the best of them supported genocide, while the US characters are so virtuous that, after a short while of saying "Fuck off, Flora," they're every one of them so outraged over what the Rebs have been doing that it causes them to forget completely that they themselves have been racists for sixty years.
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		+	:::Re HW suggesting HT has different ideas about what's important in a novel: I'm not so sure. I just can't imagine the author of the Worldwar books, RB, most of TL-191, Krispos, Gerin, and his other excellent works, looking at the final version of HW and saying "Man, this is a great book!" The only explanation I have for it is that he got lazy. Maybe in his mind he thought Chamberlain growing a pair would make for a kick-ass AH novel, but after he'd signed the contract he decided it wouldn't make WWII look all that fundamentally different after all, got bored with it, shat something out and mailed it in to fulfill contractual obligations. Certainly that's speculative, and not without its problems, but can you ''really'' picture HT putting forth a major effort at creativity and HW being the result? [[User:Turtle Fan\|Turtle Fan]] 23:47, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Russell

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-	\| Nationality=[[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]	+	\|occupation = General
-	}}	+	\|affiliations = [[Confederate States Army (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States Army]]
-		+	}}'''Brigadier General Russell''' was a [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate]] officer. In 1943, [[George Patton (Southern Victory)\|George Patton]] tapped him to command [[Clarence Potter]]'s division when Potter refused Patton's orders to lead the division in an attack on [[United States (Southern Victory)\|US]] forces northeast of [[Atlanta (Southern Victory)\|Atlanta]], [[Georgia (state)\|Georgia]].
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Hyrum Rush

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-	\| Nationality=[[Mormon]] resident of the [[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]]	+	\|religion = [[Mormon (Southern Victory)\|Mormon]]
-	}}	+	\|occupation = Politician
-		+	}}'''Hyrum Rush''' was a major figure in the [[Mormon (Southern Victory)\|Mormon]] [[resistance movement]] during the [[Second Great War]]. In 1942, the [[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]] called for a truce outside [[Orem#Orem in Southern Victory\|Orem]] and a captain crossed over to the Mormon lines. Several hours later, he returned with Rush who then traveled to [[Philadelphia (Southern Victory)\|Philadelphia]] to discuss terms for a treaty with [[President (US-Southern Victory)\|President]] [[Charles W. La Follette]].
-	'''Hyrum Rush''' was a major figure in the [[Mormon (Southern Victory)\|Mormon]] [[resistance movement]] during the [[Second Great War]]. In 1942, the [[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]] called for a truce outside [[Orem#Orem in Southern Victory\|Orem]] and a captain crossed over to the Mormon lines. Several hours later, he returned with Rush who then traveled to [[Philadelphia (Southern Victory)\|Philadelphia]] to discuss terms for a treaty with [[President (US-Southern Victory)\|President]] [[Charles W. La Follette]].

	La Follette offered ''status quo ante bellum'' if the Mormons laid down their arms. He further promised no treason trials or further persecutions. Rush felt this did not go far enough and requested a [[plebiscite]] on independence as was done in [[Kentucky (Southern Victory)\|Kentucky]], [[Houston]] and [[Sequoyah]] by La Follette's predecessor, [[Al Smith#Al Smith in Southern Victory\|Al Smith]]. His mission failed in the face of bipartisan opposition in the US Congress.		La Follette offered ''status quo ante bellum'' if the Mormons laid down their arms. He further promised no treason trials or further persecutions. Rush felt this did not go far enough and requested a [[plebiscite]] on independence as was done in [[Kentucky (Southern Victory)\|Kentucky]], [[Houston]] and [[Sequoyah]] by La Follette's predecessor, [[Al Smith#Al Smith in Southern Victory\|Al Smith]]. His mission failed in the face of bipartisan opposition in the US Congress.
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Carlos Ruiz

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-	\| Fictional or Historical=Fictional	+	\|appearance = ''[[The Center Cannot Hold]]'' through ''[[Return Engagement]]''
-	\| Story=[[Southern Victory]]	+	\|nationality = [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|United States]]
-	\| Nationality=[[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]	+	\|occupation = Farmer
-	}}	+	}}'''Carlos Ruiz''' was a farmer from [[Baroyeca]], [[Sonora]]. He was a lifelong friend of [[Hipolito Rodriguez]]. In 1943, his son was wounded while serving in the [[Confederate States Army (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States Army]] during the [[Second Great War]].
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-	'''Carlos Ruiz''' was a farmer from [[Baroyeca]], [[Sonora]]. He was a lifelong friend of [[Hipolito Rodriguez]]. In 1943, his son was wounded while serving in the [[Confederate States Army (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States Army]] during the [[Second Great War]].
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	[[Category:Catholics\|Ruiz, Carlos]]		[[Category:Catholics\|Ruiz, Carlos]]

Rudy

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-	\| Title=Rudy	+	\|name = Rudy
-	\| Image=	+	\|story = [[Southern Victory]]
-	\| Fictional or Historical=Fictional	+	\|appearance = ''[[In at the Death]]''
-	\| Story=[[Southern Victory]]	+	\|nationality = [[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]]
-	\| Nationality=[[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]]	+	\|occupation = Soldier
-	}}	+	\|affiliations = [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|United States Army]]
-		+	}}'''Rudy''' was a corporal in the [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|United States Army]]. He helped capture [[Jerry Dover]] outside [[Albertville]], [[Alabama#Alabama in Southern Victory\|Alabama]], and escorted him behind the lines.
-	'''Rudy''' was a corporal in the [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|United States Army]]. He helped capture [[Jerry Dover]] outside [[Albertville]], [[Alabama#Alabama in Southern Victory\|Alabama]], and escorted him behind the lines.
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William Rosecrans

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	}}		}}
	'''William Starke Rosecrans''' (1819–1898) was an inventor, coal-oil company executive, diplomat, politician, and [[United States Army]] officer. He gained fame for his role as a Union general during the [[American Civil War]]. He was the victor at prominent Western Theater battles such as Second Corinth, Stones River, and the Tullahoma Campaign, but his military career was effectively ended following his disastrous defeat at the Battle of Chickamauga in 1863.		'''William Starke Rosecrans''' (1819–1898) was an inventor, coal-oil company executive, diplomat, politician, and [[United States Army]] officer. He gained fame for his role as a Union general during the [[American Civil War]]. He was the victor at prominent Western Theater battles such as Second Corinth, Stones River, and the Tullahoma Campaign, but his military career was effectively ended following his disastrous defeat at the Battle of Chickamauga in 1863.

Theodore Roosevelt

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	\|timeline 2 = [[Southern Victory]]		\|timeline 2 = [[Southern Victory]]
-	\|first 2 = ''[[How Few Remain]]''	+	\|appearance 2 = ''[[How Few Remain]]'' through ''[[The Center Cannot Hold]]''
-	\|last 2 = ''[[The Center Cannot Hold]]''
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-	}}'''Theodore Roosevelt, Jr.''' (1858–1919) was the twenty-sixth President of the [[United States]], and a leader of the [[Republican Party \|Republican Party ]]and of the Progressive Movement. Elected as Vice President in 1900, he became the youngest President in United States history at the age of 42 upon the assassination of William McKinley. He served in many roles including Governor of [[New York (state)\|New York]] (1899-1900), president of the board of police commissioners of [[New York City]] (1895-1897), Assistant Secretary of the Navy, historian, naturalist, explorer, author, and soldier. Roosevelt is most famous for his personality: his energy, his vast range of interests and achievements, his model of masculinity, and his "cowboy" persona.	+	}}'''Theodore Roosevelt, Jr.''' (1858–1919) was the twenty-sixth President of the [[United States]], and a leader of the [[Republican Party ]]and of the Progressive Movement. Elected as Vice President in 1900, he became the youngest President in United States history at the age of 42 upon the assassination of William McKinley. He served in many roles including Governor of [[New York (state)\|New York]] (1899-1900), president of the board of police commissioners of [[New York City]] (1895-1897), Assistant Secretary of the Navy, historian, naturalist, explorer, author, and soldier. Roosevelt is most famous for his personality: his energy, his vast range of interests and achievements, his model of masculinity, and his "cowboy" persona.

	==Theodore Roosevelt in [[Southern Victory]]==		==Theodore Roosevelt in [[Southern Victory]]==
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	*Shortly after the [[Battle of the Teton River]], Roosevelt boasted that if he were elected president, the United States would defeat the Confederate States in war. That idle boast came true.		*Shortly after the [[Battle of the Teton River]], Roosevelt boasted that if he were elected president, the United States would defeat the Confederate States in war. That idle boast came true.
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Martin Rolvaag

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-	\| Title=Martin Rolvaag	+	\|name = Martin Rolvaag
-	\| Image=	+	\|story = [[Southern Victory]]
-	\| Fictional or Historical=Fictional	+	\|appearance = ''[[Return Engagement]]''
-	\| Story=[[Southern Victory]]	+	\|nationality = [[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]]
-	\| Nationality=[[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]]	+	\|occupation = Pilot, Soldier
-	}}	+	\|affiliations = [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|United States Army]]
-		+	}}'''Martin Rolvaag''' was Major [[Jonathan Moss]]' wingman early in the [[Second Great War]]. This was after Moss had been shot down the first time and had successfully parachuted behind [[United States (Southern Victory)\|U.S.]] lines and before Moss was shot down a second time and taken prisoner by the [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederates]].
-	'''Martin Rolvaag''' was Major [[Jonathan Moss]]' wingman early in the [[Second Great War]]. This was after Moss had been shot down the first time and had successfully parachuted behind [[United States (Southern Victory)\|U.S.]] lines and before Moss was shot down a second time and taken prisoner by the [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederates]].

	Rolvaag was stolid, good pilot but lacked the killer instinct that would have made him a great one.		Rolvaag was stolid, good pilot but lacked the killer instinct that would have made him a great one.
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	[[Category:Southern Victory Characters\|Rolvaag, Martin]]		[[Category:Southern Victory Characters\|Rolvaag, Martin]]
	[[Category:Americans\|Rolvaag, Martin]]		[[Category:Americans\|Rolvaag, Martin]]

Wilfred Rokeby

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-	\| Title=Wilfred Rokeby	+	\|name = Wilfred Rokeby
-	\| Image=	+	\|story = [[Southern Victory]]
-	\| Fictional or Historical=Fictional	+	\|appearance = ''[[American Front]]'' through ''[[Return Engagement]]''
-	\| Story=[[Southern Victory]]	+	\|nationality = [[Canada (Southern Victory)\|Canada]]
-	\| Nationality=[[Canada (Southern Victory)\|Canada]]	+	\|occupation = Postmaster
-	}}	+	}}'''Wilfred Rokeby''' was the longtime proprietor of the post office in [[Rosenfeld]], [[Manitoba]], [[Canada (Southern Victory)\|Canada]].  As might be expected, he was acquainted with the [[McGregor]] family during and after the war.  He shared many of his customers' frustrations with [[United States (Southern Victory)\|U.S.]] occupation.  In 1917, he shared gossip with [[Arthur McGregor]] that U.S. Major [[Hannebrink]], the officer who ordered the execution of McGregor's son [[Alexander McGregor\|Alex]], had a mistress on the outskirts of town. After McGregor killed Hannebrink, both men became more circumspect with each other, until McGregor's own death.
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-	'''Wilfred Rokeby''' was the longtime proprietor of the post office in [[Rosenfeld]], [[Manitoba]], [[Canada (Southern Victory)\|Canada]].

	At the outbreak of the [[Second Great War]], Rokeby cautioned [[Mary McGregor Pomeroy]] against doing anything foolish, reminding her of who her [[Arthur McGregor\|father]] and [[Alexander McGregor\|brother]] were and what the [[United States (Southern Victory)\|U.S.]] authorities had done with them. He also recalled that she had mailed a package to her cousin [[Laura Secord Moss]] just before the outbreak of the war and that he read in the papers that a Laura Moss had died in a terrorist bombing.		At the outbreak of the [[Second Great War]], Rokeby cautioned [[Mary McGregor Pomeroy]] against doing anything foolish, reminding her of who her [[Arthur McGregor\|father]] and [[Alexander McGregor\|brother]] were and what the [[United States (Southern Victory)\|U.S.]] authorities had done with them. He also recalled that she had mailed a package to her cousin [[Laura Secord Moss]] just before the outbreak of the war and that he read in the papers that a Laura Moss had died in a terrorist bombing.
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	This frightened Pomeroy but she couldn't decide whether Rokeby was sympathetic to the Canadian cause and giving her good advise or had an ulterior motive. The indecision made her cautious and stopped working on further bombs.		This frightened Pomeroy but she couldn't decide whether Rokeby was sympathetic to the Canadian cause and giving her good advise or had an ulterior motive. The indecision made her cautious and stopped working on further bombs.

-	In the mean time Rokeby announced that he planned to retire at the end of 1941. Before he could, however, Pomeroy planted falsified evidence in his store suggesting he was involved in the Canadian [[resistance movement#resistance movement in Southern Victory\|reisistance movement]] and anonymously denounced him to [[Quebec (Southern Victory)\|Quebec]] occupation authorities.	+	In the mean time Rokeby announced that he planned to retire at the end of 1941. Before he could, however, Pomeroy planted falsified evidence in his store suggesting he was involved in the Canadian [[resistance movement#resistance movement in Southern Victory\|reisistance movement]] and anonymously denounced him to [[Quebec (Southern Victory)\|Quebec]] occupation authorities.

	This lead to Rokeby telling the authorities about Pomeroy mailing a bomb to Moss. The authorities investigated, including searching the Pomeroy apartment but failed to find any evidence. In the end, they sentenced Rokeby to ten years in jail, five for the subversive literature they found at the post office and five more for lying about Pomeroy.		This lead to Rokeby telling the authorities about Pomeroy mailing a bomb to Moss. The authorities investigated, including searching the Pomeroy apartment but failed to find any evidence. In the end, they sentenced Rokeby to ten years in jail, five for the subversive literature they found at the post office and five more for lying about Pomeroy.

		+	However, Rokeby was vindicated the following year when U.S. authorities caught Pomeroy red-handed with explosives in her father's barn.
	[[Category:Canadians\|Rokeby, Wilfred]]		[[Category:Canadians\|Rokeby, Wilfred]]
	[[Category:Prisoners\|Rokeby, Wilfred]]		[[Category:Prisoners\|Rokeby, Wilfred]]

Rohe

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-	\| Title=Rohe	+	\|name = Rohe
-	\| Image=	+	\|story = [[Southern Victory]]
-	\| Fictional or Historical=Fictional	+	\|appearance = ''[[The Grapple]]''
-	\| Story=[[Southern Victory]]	+	\|nationality = [[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]]
-	\| Nationality=[[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]]	+	\|occupation = Soldier
-	}}	+	\|affiliations = [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|United States Army]]
-		+	}}Private '''Rohe''' was in Sgt. [[Chester Martin]]'s platoon in 1943 during the [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|U.S.]] drive to expel the [[Confederate States Army (Southern Victory)\|Confederates]] out of [[Ohio (Southern Victory)\|Ohio]]. A small, skinny, sly man who was good at spotting trouble, Rohe usually took point as the platoon advanced.
-	Private '''Rohe''' was in Sgt. [[Chester Martin]]'s platoon in 1943 during the [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|U.S.]] drive to expel the [[Confederate States Army (Southern Victory)\|Confederates]] out of [[Ohio (Southern Victory)\|Ohio]]. A small, skinny, sly man who was good at spotting trouble, Rohe usually took point as the platoon advanced.
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Conrad Rohde

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-	\| Title=Conrad Rohde	+	\|name = Conrad Rohde
-	\| Image=	+	\|story = [[Southern Victory]]
-	\| Fictional or Historical=Fictional	+	\|appearance = ''[[Drive to the East]]''
-	\| Story=[[Southern Victory]]	+	\|nationality = [[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]]
-	\| Nationality=[[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]]	+	\|occupation = Physician
-	}}	+	\|affiliations = [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|United States Army]]
-		+	}}Major '''Conrad Rohde''' was the [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|Army]] Doctor responsible for Colonel [[Irving Morrell]]'s recuperation in a military hospital outside [[Syracuse, New York]] in 1942. As such, he
-	Major '''Conrad Rohde''' was the [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|Army]] Doctor responsible for Colonel [[Irving Morrell]]'s recuperation in a military hospital outside [[Syracuse, New York]] in 1942. As such, he
	examined Morrell's recovery from time to time and ensured he followed the exercises he was assigned as physiotherapy.		examined Morrell's recovery from time to time and ensured he followed the exercises he was assigned as physiotherapy.

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	Contrary to the stereotype, Dr. Rohde's handwriting was an elegant copperplate that a schoolteacher would envy.		Contrary to the stereotype, Dr. Rohde's handwriting was an elegant copperplate that a schoolteacher would envy.
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Will Rogers

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	\|timeline 2 = [[Southern Victory]]		\|timeline 2 = [[Southern Victory]]
-	\|first 2 = ''[[The Victorious Opposition]]'' (sole oblique reference)	+	\|appearance 2 = ''[[The Victorious Opposition]]'' (oblique reference)
	\|nationality 2 = [[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]] (born in the [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]		\|nationality 2 = [[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]] (born in the [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]
	\|death 2 = Unrevealed		\|death 2 = Unrevealed
-	}}	+	}}'''Will Rogers''' (1879-1935) was a [[Cherokee]]-[[American]] actor, singer, muscian, and humorist.  By the time of his death, he'd made over 71 movies, written over 4,000 syndicated newspaper columns, and was Hollywood's top paid star.
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-	'''Will Rogers''' (1879-1935) was a [[Cherokee]]-[[American]] actor, singer, muscian, and humorist.  By the time of his death, he'd made over 71 movies, written over 4,000 syndicated newspaper columns, and was Hollywood's top paid star.

	Rogers's humor remains timeless.  His sardonic observations often remain as valid today as they were in his time.		Rogers's humor remains timeless.  His sardonic observations often remain as valid today as they were in his time.

Susana Rodriguez

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-	\| Title=Susana Rodriguez	+	\|name = Susana Rodriguez
-	\| Image=	+	\|story = [[Southern Victory]]
-	\| Fictional or Historical=Fictional	+	\|appearance = ''[[The Center Cannot Hold]]'' through ''[[Drive to the East]]'';
-	\| Story=[[Southern Victory]]
-	\| Nationality=[[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]
-	}}
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-	'''Susana Rodriguez''' was the daughter of [[Hipolito Rodriguez]]. She was married prior to the [[Second Great War]], and had two children. She joined her family to welcome [[Jorge Rodriguez]] home to [[Baroyeca]] in 1944.

		+	''[[The Grapple]]''
		+	\|nationality = [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]
		+	\|religion = [[Catholicism]]
		+	\|parents = [[Hipolito Rodriguez\|Hipolito]] and [[Magdalena Rodriguez]]
		+	\|children = [[Pedro Rodriguez]] (son)
		+	[[Jorge Rodriguez]] (son)
		+	[[Miguel Rodriguez]] (son)
		+	[[Susana Rodriguez]] (daughter)
		+	}}'''Susana Rodriguez''' was the daughter of [[Hipolito Rodriguez]]. She was married prior to the [[Second Great War]], and had two children. She joined her family to welcome [[Jorge Rodriguez]] home to [[Baroyeca]] in 1944.
	[[Category:Confederates\|Rodriguez, Susana]]		[[Category:Confederates\|Rodriguez, Susana]]
	[[Category:Minor Characters\|Rodriguez, Susana]]		[[Category:Minor Characters\|Rodriguez, Susana]]

Talk:Magdalena Rodriguez

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	:Hmm, interesting. I always assumed HT was screwing with us. I had read spoilers for VO that gave a complete list, or claimed to, of POV characters who died and the manners of their deaths, so when Hip got zapped I said "What the FUCK?!?!" and flipped ahead till I saw him come up again. And Hip never really did anything really ''necessary'' after that point; Pinkard had Determination covered, and we'd already seen how the Freedomites insuated themselves into the Hispanic states. [[User:Turtle Fan\|Turtle Fan]] 21:24, November 20, 2009 (UTC)		:Hmm, interesting. I always assumed HT was screwing with us. I had read spoilers for VO that gave a complete list, or claimed to, of POV characters who died and the manners of their deaths, so when Hip got zapped I said "What the FUCK?!?!" and flipped ahead till I saw him come up again. And Hip never really did anything really ''necessary'' after that point; Pinkard had Determination covered, and we'd already seen how the Freedomites insuated themselves into the Hispanic states. [[User:Turtle Fan\|Turtle Fan]] 21:24, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
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		+	::I'd seen those same spoilers. I was surprised, but I opted not to flip through on the theory that Hip was a newer POV, whereas the others had been around since AF, and maybe the reviewers just didn't care as much about Hip.
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		+	::It's worth remembering that HT's view of what is "necessary" in his narrative is very different from our own (see our grumblings about HW). Personally, I felt Hip was "distinct" enough in his experiences that he was useful. Yes, Pinkard handled the administration, but Hip did the dirty work, so that was interesting dichotomy for a while, made more so by the convergence of every other POD on Tennessee and Georgia that took place after Hip killed himself. [[User:TR\|TR]] 22:09, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Pedro Rodriguez

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-	\| Title=Pedro Rodriguez	+	\|name = Pedro Rodriguez
-	\| Image=	+	\|story = [[Southern Victory]]
-	\| Fictional or Historical=Fictional	+	\|appearance = ''[[The Center Cannot Hold]]'' through ''[[The Grapple]]''
-	\| Story=[[Southern Victory]]	+	\|nationality = [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate Stats]]
-	\| Nationality=[[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]	+	\|occupation = Soldier
-	}}	+	\|parents = [[Hipolito Rodriguez\|Hipolito]] and [[Magadalena Rodriguez]]
		+	\|family = [[Jorge Rodriguez]] (brother)

-	'''Pedro Rodriguez''' was the youngest son of [[Hipolito Rodriguez]]. He was the first Rodriguez boy to be conscripted into the [[Confederate States Army (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States Army]] during the [[Second Great War]]. In 1943, he was captured by [[United States (Southern Victory)\|US]] forces in [[Ohio#Ohio in Southern Victory\|Ohio]], and spent the duration of the war a POW. As a consequence, Pedro remained defiant in the face of the Confederacy's defeat. His brother, [[Jorge Rodriguez\|Jorge]], was far more world- and war-weary, and so did his best to keep Pedro from rushing off into guerilla actions against the occupying U.S. forces.	+	[[Miguel Rodriguez]] (brother)

		+	[[Susana Rodriguez]] (daughter)
		+	\|affiliations = [[Confederate States Army (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States Army]]
		+	}}'''Pedro Rodriguez''' was the youngest son of [[Hipolito Rodriguez]]. He was the first Rodriguez boy to be conscripted into the [[Confederate States Army (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States Army]] during the [[Second Great War]]. In 1943, he was captured by [[United States (Southern Victory)\|US]] forces in [[Ohio#Ohio in Southern Victory\|Ohio]], and spent the duration of the war a POW. As a consequence, Pedro remained defiant in the face of the Confederacy's defeat. His brother, [[Jorge Rodriguez\|Jorge]], was far more world- and war-weary, and so did his best to keep Pedro from rushing off into guerilla actions against the occupying U.S. forces.
	[[Category:Catholics\|Rodriguez, Pedro]]		[[Category:Catholics\|Rodriguez, Pedro]]
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Talk:Magdalena Rodriguez

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	You know, I've often wondered about Hip's electrocution. It was written in HT's typical "this character is dead" style. Was HT just screwing with the readers, or did he abruptly change his mind and decide he still needed Hip. [[User:TR\|TR]] 20:46, November 20, 2009 (UTC)		You know, I've often wondered about Hip's electrocution. It was written in HT's typical "this character is dead" style. Was HT just screwing with the readers, or did he abruptly change his mind and decide he still needed Hip. [[User:TR\|TR]] 20:46, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
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		+	:Hmm, interesting. I always assumed HT was screwing with us. I had read spoilers for VO that gave a complete list, or claimed to, of POV characters who died and the manners of their deaths, so when Hip got zapped I said "What the FUCK?!?!" and flipped ahead till I saw him come up again. And Hip never really did anything really ''necessary'' after that point; Pinkard had Determination covered, and we'd already seen how the Freedomites insuated themselves into the Hispanic states. [[User:Turtle Fan\|Turtle Fan]] 21:24, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Miguel Rodriguez

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-	\| Title=Miguel Rodriguez	+	\|name = Miguel Rodriguez
-	\| Image=	+	\|story = [[Southern Victory]]
-	\| Fictional or Historical=Fictional	+	\|appearance = ''[[The Center Cannot Hold]] through ''[[In at the Death]]''
-	\| Story=[[Southern Victory]]	+	\|nationality = [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]
-	\| Nationality= [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]	+	\|religion = [[Catholicism]]
-	}}	+	\|occupation = Soldier
-		+	\|parents = [[Hipolito Rodriguez\|Hipolito]] and [[Magdalena Rodriguez]]
-	'''Miguel Rodriguez''' was a son of [[Hipolito Rodriguez]]. A native of [[Baroyeca]], [[Sonora]], he served in the [[Freedom Youth Corps]] as a young man in the 1930s. During the [[Second Great War]], he served in the [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate]] Army. He served up at the border of his home state in a halfhearted Confederate campaign to retake the small salient of Sonora which had been ceded to the [[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]] at the end of the [[Great War]] and annexed to the US state of [[New Mexico#New Mexico in Southern Victory\|New Mexico]]. He was injured and captured. His injuries were severe. When he returned home, he was in a wheelchair, and had suffered brain damage.	+	\|family = [[Jorge Rodriguez]] (brother)
-		+	[[Pedro Rodriguez]] (brother)
		+	[[Susana Rodriguez]] (sister)
		+	\|affiliations = [[Confederate States Army (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States Army]]
		+	}}'''Miguel Rodriguez''' was a son of [[Hipolito Rodriguez]]. A native of [[Baroyeca]], [[Sonora]], he served in the [[Freedom Youth Corps]] as a young man in the 1930s. During the [[Second Great War]], he served in the [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate]] Army. He served up at the border of his home state in a halfhearted Confederate campaign to retake the small salient of Sonora which had been ceded to the [[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]] at the end of the [[Great War]] and annexed to the US state of [[New Mexico#New Mexico in Southern Victory\|New Mexico]]. He was injured and captured. His injuries were severe. When he returned home, he was in a wheelchair, and had suffered brain damage.
	[[Category:Southern Victory Characters\|Rodriguez, Miguel]]		[[Category:Southern Victory Characters\|Rodriguez, Miguel]]
	[[Category:Catholics\|Rodriguez, Miguel]]		[[Category:Catholics\|Rodriguez, Miguel]]

Talk:Magdalena Rodriguez

2009-11-20T20:46:40Z

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You know, I've often wondered about Hip's electrocution. It was written in HT's typical "this character is dead" style. Was HT just screwing with the readers, or did he abruptly change his mind and decide he still needed Hip. [[User:TR|TR]] 20:46, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Magdalena Rodriguez

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-	\| Title=Magdalena Rodriguez	+	\|name = Magdalena Rodriguez
-	\| Image=	+	\|story = [[Southern Victory]]
-	\| Fictional or Historical=Fictional	+	\|appearance = ''[[The Center Cannot Hold]]'' through ''[[Drive to the East]]'';
-	\| Story=[[Southern Victory]]
-	\| Nationality=[[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]
-	}}

-	'''Magdalena Rodriguez''' was the wife of [[Hipolito Rodriguez]] and the mother of [[Jorge Rodriguez\|Jorge]], [[Miguel Rodriguez\|Miguel]], [[Pedro Rodriguez\|Pedro]] and [[Susana Rodriguez\|Susana]].	+	''[[In at the Death]]''
		+	\|nationality = [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]
		+	\|occupation = Housewife
		+	\|spouse = [[Hipolito Rodriguez]]
		+	\|children = [[Pedro Rodriguez]] (son)
		+	[[Jorge Rodriguez]] (son)
		+	[[Miguel Rodriguez]] (son)
		+	[[Susana Rodriguez]] (daughter)
		+	}}'''Magdalena Rodriguez''' was the wife of [[Hipolito Rodriguez]] and the mother of [[Jorge Rodriguez\|Jorge]], [[Miguel Rodriguez\|Miguel]], [[Pedro Rodriguez\|Pedro]] and [[Susana Rodriguez\|Susana]].

-	Magdalena was a frugal and effective manager of the Rodriguez household budget and was able to stretch it out even during the runaway inflation which nearly destroyed the [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate]] economy in the years following the [[Great War]]. She disapproved of her husband's drinking in [[La Culebra Verde]]. She once saved her husband from being electrocuted after he gave her the gift of a refrigerator. Her English was broken.	+	Magdalena was a frugal and effective manager of the Rodriguez household budget and was able to stretch it out even during the runaway inflation which nearly destroyed the [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate]] economy in the years following the [[Great War]]. She disapproved of her husband's drinking in [[La Culebra Verde]]. She once saved her husband from being electrocuted after he gave her the gift of a refrigerator. Her English was broken.
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-	In 1943, on hearing of the death of her husband, she wrote a letter to his old friend and commandant, [[Jefferson Pinkard]], which Pinkard had difficulty reading. She refused to believe that her husband had committed suicide.

		+	In 1943, on hearing of the death of her husband, she wrote a letter to his old friend and commandant, [[Jefferson Pinkard]], which Pinkard had difficulty reading. She refused to believe that her husband had committed suicide.
	[[Category:Southern Victory Characters\|Rodriguez, Magdalena]]		[[Category:Southern Victory Characters\|Rodriguez, Magdalena]]
	[[Category:Catholics\|Rodriguez, Magdalena]]		[[Category:Catholics\|Rodriguez, Magdalena]]

Jorge Rodriguez

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-	\| Title=Jorge Rodriguez	+	\|name = Jorge Rodriguez
-	\| Image=	+	\|story = [[Southern Victory]]
-	\| Fictional or Historical=Fictional	+	\|appearance = ''[[The Center Cannot Hold]]'' through ''[[In at the Death]]''
-	\| Story=[[Southern Victory]]	+	\|nationality = [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]
-	\| Nationality=[[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]	+	\|occupation = Soldier, farmer
-	}}	+	\|parents = [[Hipolito Rodriguez]] and [[Magdalena Rodriguez]]
		+	\|family = [[Pedro Rodriguez]] (brother)
		+	[[Miguel Rodriguez]] (brother)

-	'''Jorge Rodriguez''' was the son of [[Hipolito Rodriguez]]. As a young man in the 1930s, he served in the [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate]] [[Freedom Youth Corps]]. Later, during the [[Second Great War]], he served in the [[Army of Northern Virginia]] until 1943, when, like most of that army, he was transferred to [[Tennessee#Tennessee in Southern Victory\|Tennessee]]. He served in Sergeant [[Hugo Blackledge]]'s squad of Captain [[Nelson Cash]]'s company, eventually reaching the rank of corporal. Rodriguez and his company were transferred to guard the Confederate army's final retreats from the [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|United States Army]] advancing on [[Georgia (state)\|Georgia]] in 1944. From there, Blackledge's squad, including Rodriguez, retreated from Georgia into [[Alabama]] and into [[South Carolina#South Carolina in Southern Victory\|South Carolina]], before they were transferred into [[Virginia#Virginia in Southern Victory\|Virginia]]. Rodriguez and his comrades were finally forced to surrender in [[Appomattox]], Virginia.	+	[[Susana Rodriguez]] (brother)
		+	\|affiliations = [[Freedom Youth Corps]]
		+	[[Confederate States Army (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States Army]]
		+	}}'''Jorge Rodriguez''' was the son of [[Hipolito Rodriguez]]. As a young man in the 1930s, he served in the [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate]] [[Freedom Youth Corps]]. Later, during the [[Second Great War]], he served in the [[Army of Northern Virginia]] until 1943, when, like most of that army, he was transferred to [[Tennessee#Tennessee in Southern Victory\|Tennessee]]. He served in Sergeant [[Hugo Blackledge]]'s squad of Captain [[Nelson Cash]]'s company, eventually reaching the rank of corporal. Rodriguez and his company were transferred to guard the Confederate army's final retreats from the [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|United States Army]] advancing on [[Georgia (state)\|Georgia]] in 1944. From there, Blackledge's squad, including Rodriguez, retreated from Georgia into [[Alabama]] and into [[South Carolina#South Carolina in Southern Victory\|South Carolina]], before they were transferred into [[Virginia#Virginia in Southern Victory\|Virginia]]. Rodriguez and his comrades were finally forced to surrender in [[Appomattox]], Virginia.

-	After his country's final defeat, Rodriguez returned to his childhood home in [[Baroyeca]], [[Sonora]]. His brother, [[Pedro Rodriguez\|Pedro]], who'd been a POW for much of the war, had arrived first. Unlike Jorge, who was tired of war, Pedro was unwilling to accept the Confederacy's defeat.	+	After his country's final defeat, Rodriguez returned to his childhood home in [[Baroyeca]], [[Sonora]]. His brother, [[Pedro Rodriguez\|Pedro]], who'd been a POW for much of the war, had arrived first. Unlike Jorge, who was tired of war, Pedro was unwilling to accept the Confederacy's defeat.
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-	When Jorge met [[Freedom Party]] organizer [[Robert Quinn]], he was suspicious of the Freedom Party leader's presence. He later learned that Quinn had surreptitiously returned to illegally keep the party going as an underground organization. Alarmed at the inevitable cost of such a plan, and knowing his brother would eagerly follow Quinn, Jorge secretly informed on Quinn to the occupying U.S. authorities. Quinn was arrested. Pedro, unaware of Jorge's action, tried to goad Jorge into action. Jorge, anguished over his decision, refused.

		+	When Jorge met [[Freedom Party]] organizer [[Robert Quinn]], he was suspicious of the Freedom Party leader's presence. He later learned that Quinn had surreptitiously returned to illegally keep the party going as an underground organization. Alarmed at the inevitable cost of such a plan, and knowing his brother would eagerly follow Quinn, Jorge secretly informed on Quinn to the occupying U.S. authorities. Quinn was arrested. Pedro, unaware of Jorge's action, tried to goad Jorge into action. Jorge, anguished over his decision, refused.
	[[Category:POVs\|Rodriguez, Jorge]]		[[Category:POVs\|Rodriguez, Jorge]]
	[[Category:Southern Victory Characters\|Rodriguez, Jorge]]		[[Category:Southern Victory Characters\|Rodriguez, Jorge]]

Talk:John Pershing

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	Actually, I guess that's more of a story about a rare instance of DeGaulle being a decent human being than about Pershing directly. [[User:TR\|TR]] 16:05, November 20, 2009 (UTC)		Actually, I guess that's more of a story about a rare instance of DeGaulle being a decent human being than about Pershing directly. [[User:TR\|TR]] 16:05, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
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		+	:(sigh) . . . Dealing with soft-headed people like that can call for heroic amounts of tact and restraint, can't it.
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		+	:And that was unusually kind of DeGaulle. Then again, it's not like railing against Petain to Pershing would have served any purpose. It would have distressed the old man, who would then have forgotten about it. And to the extent that American public opinion learned about it, it would reflect badly on DeGaulle. I'm not entirely prepared to say he ever did anything in his life without running that sort of cost-benefit analysis. [[User:Turtle Fan\|Turtle Fan]] 19:56, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Hipolito Rodriguez

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-	\| Title=Hipolito Rodriguez	+	\|name = Hipolito Rodriguez
-	\| Image=	+	\|story = [[Southern Victory]]
-	\| Fictional or Historical=Fictional	+	\|appearance = ''[[Walk in Hell]]'' through ''[[Breakthroughs]]'';
-	\| Story=[[Southern Victory]]
-	\| Nationality=[[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]
-	}}

-	'''Hipolito "Hip" Rodriguez''' (1894-1943) was a farmer from [[Baroyeca]], [[Sonora]], [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]. In his life, he was a soldier, a devout [[Freedom Party]] man, and a prison guard at the infamous [[Camp Determination]].	+	''[[The Center Cannot Hold]]'' through ''[[The Grapple]]''
		+	\|nationality = [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]
		+	\|religion = [[Catholicism]]
		+	\|birth = 1894
		+	\|death = 1943
		+	\|cause of death = Self-Inflicted Gunshot Wound
		+	\|occupation = Soldier, Farmer
		+	\|spouse = [[Magdalena Rodriguez]]
		+	\|children = [[Jorge Rodriguez]] (son)
		+	[[Pedro Rodriguez]] (son)
		+	[[Miguel Rodriguez]] (son)
		+	[[Susana Rodriguez]] (daughter)
		+	\|affiliations = [[Confederate States Army]] (1915-1917)
		+	[[Freedom Party]]
		+	}}'''Hipolito "Hip" Rodriguez''' (1894-1943) was a farmer from [[Baroyeca]], [[Sonora]], [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]. In his life, he was a soldier, a devout [[Freedom Party]] man, and a prison guard at the infamous [[Camp Determination]].

-	Rodriguez was conscripted into the [[Confederate States Army (Southern Victory)\|Confederate Army]] during the [[Great War]]. His first combat action was against [[Red Rebellion\|Negro rebels]] of the Black Belt Republic in [[Georgia (state)\|Georgia]] in 1915, after which Rodriguez served with [[Jefferson Pinkard]] on the West [[Texas#Texas in Southern Victory\|Texas]] front of the [[Great War]]. Upon demobilization, he returned to his farm in the far western CSA.	+	Rodriguez was conscripted into the [[Confederate States Army (Southern Victory)\|Confederate Army]] during the [[Great War]]. His first combat action was against [[Red Rebellion\|Negro rebels]] of the Black Belt Republic in [[Georgia (state)\|Georgia]] in 1915, after which Rodriguez served with [[Jefferson Pinkard]] on the West [[Texas#Texas in Southern Victory\|Texas]] front of the [[Great War]]. Upon demobilization, he returned to his farm in the far western CSA.

	In the 1920s, upon meeting [[Robert Quinn]], a [[Freedom Party]] organizer, Rodriguez joined the Freedom Party and became a strong supporter, taking part in actions against [[Radical Liberal Party\|Radical Liberal]] landowners who discouraged voting for [[Jake Featherston]]. He was among those who rallied in support of Featherston's continued presidency in 1939 (supporting an amendment to the Confederate Constitution removing the single-term limit for Confederate presidents), and inducted his sons, [[Jorge Rodriguez\|Jorge]], [[Miguel Rodriguez\|Miguel]], and [[Pedro Rodriguez\|Pedro]] into the [[Freedom Youth Corps]].		In the 1920s, upon meeting [[Robert Quinn]], a [[Freedom Party]] organizer, Rodriguez joined the Freedom Party and became a strong supporter, taking part in actions against [[Radical Liberal Party\|Radical Liberal]] landowners who discouraged voting for [[Jake Featherston]]. He was among those who rallied in support of Featherston's continued presidency in 1939 (supporting an amendment to the Confederate Constitution removing the single-term limit for Confederate presidents), and inducted his sons, [[Jorge Rodriguez\|Jorge]], [[Miguel Rodriguez\|Miguel]], and [[Pedro Rodriguez\|Pedro]] into the [[Freedom Youth Corps]].
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	However, after becoming a messenger for [[Bathsheba]] to her husband [[Scipio]] (in the process keeping his death from her), Rodriguez came to see the Negroes as humans. Eventually, overcome with remorse, he committed suicide.		However, after becoming a messenger for [[Bathsheba]] to her husband [[Scipio]] (in the process keeping his death from her), Rodriguez came to see the Negroes as humans. Eventually, overcome with remorse, he committed suicide.
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	[[Category:Southern Victory Characters\|Rodriguez, Hipolito]]		[[Category:Southern Victory Characters\|Rodriguez, Hipolito]]
	[[Category:Confederates\|Rodriguez, Hipolito]]		[[Category:Confederates\|Rodriguez, Hipolito]]

Lee Rodgers

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-	\| Title=Lee Rodgers	+	\|name = Lee Rodgers
-	\| Image=	+	\|story = [[Southern Victory]]
-	\| Fictional or Historical=Fictional	+	\|appearance = ''[[The Grapple]]''
-	\| Story=[[Southern Victory]]	+	\|nationality = [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]
-	\| Nationality=[[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]]	+	\|occupation = Soldier
-	}}	+	\|affiliations = [[Freedom Party Guards]]
-		+	}}Assistant Troop Leader '''Lee Rodgers''' was with the combat wing of the [[Freedom Party Guards]]. In 1943 he was captured outside [[Lubbock]] while defending against the [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|U.S. Army]] advance on [[Camp Determination]]. Rodgers was personally questioned by Major General [[Abner Dowling]], not so much due to any information he may have had, but out of curiosity about the new forces that had stalled Dowling's advance.
-	Assistant Troop Leader '''Lee Rodgers''' was with the combat wing of the [[Freedom Party Guards]]. In 1943 he was captured outside [[Lubbock]] while defending against the [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|U.S. Army]] advance on [[Camp Determination]]. Rodgers was personally questioned by Major General [[Abner Dowling]], not so much due to any information he may have had, but out of curiosity about the new forces that had stalled Dowling's advance.

		+	Rodgers gave nothing more than he had to under the Geneva Convention.
	[[Category:Southern Victory Characters\|Rodgers, Lee]]		[[Category:Southern Victory Characters\|Rodgers, Lee]]
	[[Category:Confederates\|Rodgers, Lee]]		[[Category:Confederates\|Rodgers, Lee]]

Hyman Rickover

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-	\| Title=Hyman Rickover	+	\|name = Hyman Rickover
-	\| Image=Rickover.jpg	+	\|image = Rickover.jpg
-	\| Fictional or Historical=Historical	+	\|timeline = [[OTL]]
-	\| Story=[[Southern Victory]]	+	\|nationality = [[United States]]
-	\| Nationality=[[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]]	+	\|religion = Episcopalian (converted from [[Judaism]])
-	}}	+	\|birth = 1900
		+	\|death = 1986
		+	\|cause of death = Stroke
		+	\|occupation = Sailor, Admiral
		+	\|spouse = Ruth Masters Rickover (d. 1972)
		+	Eleonore A. Bednowicz Rickover
		+	\|children = Robert Rickover
		+	\|affiliations = [[United States Navy]]
		+	\|timeline 2 = [[Southern Victory]]
		+	\|appearance 2 = ''[[In at the Death]]''
		+	}}'''Hyman George Rickover''' (1900 – 1986), was a four-star [[American]] admiral.  He is most closely associated with the development of the nuclear submarine.

-	'''Hyman Rickover''' was a captain in the [[United States Navy#United States Navy in Southern Victory\|U.S. Navy]]. A blunt man, Rickover was called before the [[Joint Committee on the Conduct of the War]] in 1944, at the end of the [[Second Great War]] when the [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]] was going down to defeat. The Committee, with little to do, attempted to grill Rickover about why the U.S. was having trouble matching [[Germany (Southern Victory)\|German]] [[submersible]] designs. Rickover assured the Committee that the U.S would be building them faster than Germany did, but that the designs had only recently entered U.S. hands, and pointedly chastined a [[Dakota (state)\|Dakota]] Senator for demanding the impossible.	+	== Hyman Rickover in [[Southern Victory]]   ==

		+	'''Hyman Rickover''' was a captain in the [[United States Navy#United States Navy in Southern Victory\|U.S. Navy]]. A blunt man, Rickover was called before the [[Joint Committee on the Conduct of the War]] in 1944, at the end of the [[Second Great War]] when the [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]] was going down to defeat. The Committee, with little to do, attempted to grill Rickover about why the U.S. was having trouble matching [[Germany (Southern Victory)\|German]] [[submersible]] designs. Rickover assured the Committee that the U.S would be building them faster than Germany did, but that the designs had only recently entered U.S. hands, and pointedly chastined a [[Dakota (state)\|Dakota]] Senator for demanding the impossible.
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		+	{{DEFAULTSORT:Rickover, Hyman}}
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	[[Category:Historical Figures\|Rickover, Hyman]]		[[Category:Historical Figures\|Rickover, Hyman]]
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		+	[[Category:Died of Natural Causes]]
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Hubert Rhodes

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-	\| Title=Hubert Rhodes	+	\|name = Hubert Rhodes
-	\| Image=	+	\|story = [[Southern Victory]]
-	\| Fictional or Historical=Fictional	+	\|appearance = ''[[The Grapple]]'' through ''[[In at the Death]]''
-	\| Story=[[Southern Victory]]	+	\|nationality = [[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]]
-	\| Nationality=[[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]]	+	\|occupation = Soldier
-	}}	+	\|affiliations = [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|United States Army]]
		+	}}'''Hubert Rhodes''' was a captain in the [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|United States Army]] during the [[Second Great War]]. He commanded [[Chester Martin]]'s regiment from 1943 through the end of the war, replacing two COs. He was part of General [[Irving Morrell]]'s offensive into the heart of the [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]].

-	'''Hubert Rhodes''' was a captain in the [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|United States Army]] during the [[Second Great War]]. He commanded [[Chester Martin]]'s regiment. He was part of General [[Irving Morrell]]'s offensive into the heart of the [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]].	+	Rhodes was a tested and hardened soldier.  When a soldier named Don was killed by bushwhackers in Tennessee, Rhodes agreed to Chester Martin's plan to take hostages from nearby Woodbury.  Rhodes gave the order for the hostages to be executed when the bushwhackers did not come forward.

-	[[Boris Lavochkin]] was a platoon leader in Rhodes' regiment. Both Rhodes and Martin were unnerved by Lavochkin's sheer brutality and destructive drives. Towards the end of the war, Rhodes began making a concious effort to rein Lavochkin in, keeping Lavochkin from charging into [[Charleston, South Carolina (Southern Victory)\|Charleston, South Carolina]] in advance of a [[superbomb]] attack on the city.	+	In the last days of the war, Lt. [[Boris Lavochkin]] became a platoon leader in Rhodes' regiment. Both Rhodes and Martin were unnerved by Lavochkin's sheer brutality and destructive drives. Towards the end of the war, Rhodes began making a concious effort to rein Lavochkin in, keeping Lavochkin from charging into [[Charleston, South Carolina (Southern Victory)\|Charleston, South Carolina]] in advance of a [[superbomb]] attack on the city.

-	When the war ended, Rhodes informed Martin that because he was a noncom over the age of 50, he could request a discharge. Rhodes promised that if Lavochkin made it hard on Martin, he would intervene. Happily, Rhodes did not need to intervene.	+	When the war ended, Rhodes informed Martin that because he was a noncom over the age of 50, he could request a discharge. Rhodes promised that if Lavochkin made it hard on Martin, he would intervene. Happily, Rhodes did not need to intervene.

		+	{{DEFAULTSORT:Rhodes, Hubert}}
	[[Category:Southern Victory Characters\|Rhodes, Hubert]]		[[Category:Southern Victory Characters\|Rhodes, Hubert]]
	[[Category:Americans\|Rhodes, Hubert]]		[[Category:Americans\|Rhodes, Hubert]]
	[[Category:Soldiers of the Second Great War\|Rhodes, Hubert]]		[[Category:Soldiers of the Second Great War\|Rhodes, Hubert]]
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Yossel Reisen, Jr.

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-	\| Title=Yossel Reisen, Jr.	+	\|name = Yossel Reisen, Jr.
-	\| Image=	+	\|story = [[Southern Victory]]
-	\| Fictional or Historical=Fictional	+	\|appearance = ''[[Walk in Hell]]'';
-	\| Story=[[Southern Victory]]
-	\| Nationality=[[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]]
-	}}

-	'''Yossel Reisen, Jr.''' (b 1915) was the son of [[Sophie Hamburger]] and [[Yossel Reisen, Sr.]] and the nephew of [[Flora Hamburger]]. Reisen was conceived out of wedlock before his father, a [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|United States Army]] volunteer during the [[Great War]], was sent to the [[Roanoke Front]]. After learning of his mother's pregnancy, his father promised to marry her, but was killed in action before the wedding and before the younger Yossel's birth.	+	''[[Blood and Iron]]'' through ''[[The Grapple]]''
		+	\|nationality = [[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]]
		+	\|religion = [[Judaism]]
		+	\|birth = 1915
		+	\|occupation = Soldier
		+	\|parents = [[Yossel Reisen, Sr.]] and [[Sophie Hamburger]]
		+	\|affiliations = [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|United States Army]]
		+	}}'''Yossel Reisen, Jr.''' (b 1915) was the son of [[Sophie Hamburger]] and [[Yossel Reisen, Sr.]] and the nephew of [[Flora Hamburger]]. Reisen was conceived out of wedlock before his father, a [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|United States Army]] volunteer during the [[Great War]], was sent to the [[Roanoke Front]]. After learning of his mother's pregnancy, his father promised to marry her, but was killed in action before the wedding and before the younger Yossel's birth.

-	Many years later, Yossel served in the US Army during the [[Second Great War]]. Alongside his friend and comrade [[Armstrong Grimes]], he helped suppress the [[Mormon]] [[resistance movement#resistance movement in Southern Victory\|resistance movement]] in [[Utah#Utah in Southern Victory\|Utah]] during that war and saw action against [[Canada (Southern Victory)\|Canadian]] rebels. Following Grimes' wounding, Reisen assumed command of their platoon.	+	Many years later, Yossel served in the US Army during the [[Second Great War]]. Alongside his friend and comrade [[Armstrong Grimes]], he helped suppress the [[Mormon]] [[resistance movement#resistance movement in Southern Victory\|resistance movement]] in [[Utah#Utah in Southern Victory\|Utah]] during that war and saw action against [[Canada (Southern Victory)\|Canadian]] rebels. Following Grimes' wounding, Reisen assumed command of their platoon.

	His comrades frequently joked about his aunt being a Congresswoman, although oddly, they seemed to pay little to no attention to the fact that his uncle was a former President of the United States, who was uncle by marriage to Flora Blackford.		His comrades frequently joked about his aunt being a Congresswoman, although oddly, they seemed to pay little to no attention to the fact that his uncle was a former President of the United States, who was uncle by marriage to Flora Blackford.
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Yossel Reisen, Sr.

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-	\| Title=Yossel Reisen, Sr.	+	\|name = Yossel Reisen, Sr.
-	\| Image=	+	\|story = [[Southern Victory]]
-	\| Fictional or Historical=Fictional	+	\|appearance = ''[[American Front]]''
-	\| Story=[[Southern Victory]]	+	\|nationality = [[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]]
-	\| Nationality=[[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]]	+	\|religion = [[Judaism]]
-	}}	+	\|death = 1915
-		+	\|cause of death = Killed in action
-	'''Yossel Reisen, Sr.''' (d 1915) a rabbinical student from [[New York City#New York City in Southern Victory\|New York City]] and a [[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]] soldier in the [[Great War]], was romantically involved with [[Sophie Hamburger]] (sister of future Congresswoman and First Lady [[Flora Hamburger]]). During the [[Great War]], he volunteered for the [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|United States Army]] and was deployed on the [[Roanoke Front]]. Before leaving for action for the first time he had premarital sex with Sophie, and conceived a child. Reisen returned to marry Sophie while on furlough, but he was killed in action before his child was born. He never knew his son, [[Yossel Reisen, Jr.]], who was named after him.	+	\|occupation = Student
-		+	\|spouse = [[Sophie Hamburger]]
		+	\|children = [[Yossel Reisen, Jr.]]
		+	\|affiliations = [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|United States Army]]
		+	}}'''Yossel Reisen, Sr.''' (d 1915) a rabbinical student from [[New York City#New York City in Southern Victory\|New York City]] and a [[United States (Southern Victory)\|United States]] soldier in the [[Great War]], was romantically involved with [[Sophie Hamburger]] (sister of future Congresswoman and First Lady [[Flora Hamburger]]). During the [[Great War]], he volunteered for the [[United States Army (Southern Victory)\|United States Army]] and was deployed on the [[Roanoke Front]]. Before leaving for action for the first time he had premarital sex with Sophie, and conceived a child. Reisen returned to marry Sophie while on furlough, but he was killed in action before his child was born. He never knew his son, [[Yossel Reisen, Jr.]], who was named after him.
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Thomas Brackett Reed

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	\|affiliations = [[Republican Party]]		\|affiliations = [[Republican Party]]
	\|timeline 2 = [[Southern Victory]]		\|timeline 2 = [[Southern Victory]]
-	\|first 2 = ''[[American Front]]'' (sole posthumous reference)	+	\|appearance 2 = ''[[American Front]]'' (posthumous reference)
-	}}	+	}}'''Thomas Brackett Reed''', (1839–1902), was a [[United States]] Representative from [[Maine]], and Speaker of the House from 1889–1891 and from 1895–1899. He was a powerful leader of the Republican party through much of the latter 19th century.
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-	'''Thomas Brackett Reed''', (1839–1902), was a [[United States]] Representative from [[Maine]], and Speaker of the House from 1889–1891 and from 1895–1899. He was a powerful leader of the Republican party through much of the latter 19th century.

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Ronald Reagan

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	\|occupation 3 = Broadcaster		\|occupation 3 = Broadcaster
-	}}	+	}}'''Ronald Wilson Reagan''' (1911–2004) was the 40th President of the [[United States]] (1981–1989) and the 33rd Governor of [[California]] (1967–1975). Born in [[Illinois]], Reagan moved to [[Los Angeles]], California in the 1930s, where he was an actor, president of the Screen Actors Guild (SAG), and a spokesman for General Electric (GE).
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-	'''Ronald Wilson Reagan''' (1911–2004) was the 40th President of the [[United States]] (1981–1989) and the 33rd Governor of [[California]] (1967–1975). Born in [[Illinois]], Reagan moved to [[Los Angeles]], California in the 1930s, where he was an actor, president of the Screen Actors Guild (SAG), and a spokesman for General Electric (GE).

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-	'''Ronald "Dutch" Reagan''' was a radio broadcaster in [[Des Moines]], [[Iowa#Iowa in Southern Victory\|Iowa]] in the 1930s and 40s. He broadcast [[football]] games, and had a tremendous talent for capturing and holding audiences' attention by making every play sound exciting.	+	[[File:Reagan.jpg\|left\|thumb]]'''Ronald "Dutch" Reagan''' was a radio broadcaster in [[Des Moines]], [[Iowa#Iowa in Southern Victory\|Iowa]] in the 1930s and 40s. He broadcast [[football]] games, and had a tremendous talent for capturing and holding audiences' attention by making every play sound exciting.

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Bill Reach

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Ray (soldier)

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-	}}'''Ray''' was a soldier from [[North Carolina (Southern Victory)\|North Carolina]]. He was part of [[Jorge Rodriguez]]'s platoon. In 1944, as the platoon was retreating through [[Georgia (state)\|Georgia]] and into [[Alabama]], Ray received an anonymous letter from someone back home that his ladylove, [[Thelma Lou]], was cheating on Ray with a mechanic. In [[Statesboro]], Ray shared his desire to dessert with Rodriguez and kill Thelma Lou's boyfriend. Rodriguez warned him that if Ray did dessert, he'd be caught and immediately executed.	+	}}'''Ray''' was a soldier from [[North Carolina (Southern Victory)\|North Carolina]]. He was part of [[Jorge Rodriguez]]'s platoon. In 1944, as the platoon was retreating through [[Georgia (state)#Georgia in Southern Victory\|Georgia]] and into [[Alabama#Alabama in Southern Victory\|Alabama]], Ray received an anonymous letter from someone back home that his ladylove, [[Thelma Lou]], was cheating on Ray with a mechanic. In [[Statesboro]], Ray shared his desire to dessert with Rodriguez and kill Thelma Lou's boyfriend. Rodriguez warned him that if Ray did dessert, he'd be caught and immediately executed.

	This was not the first time Thelma Lou had stepped out on Ray.		This was not the first time Thelma Lou had stepped out on Ray.

Ray (Lt Col)

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	I propose that we create supercategories that relate to certain countries, much as we have the various war categories. Obviously, not every country would need a category. But for example, a United States category would include the U.S., and then Americans, U.S. States, various institutions related to the U.S., like the president. This would be more about user friendliness than anything. We probably wouldn't need to worry too much about stories, but we can discuss that if we adopt my proposal. [[User:TR\|TR]] 02:50, November 16, 2009 (UTC)		I propose that we create supercategories that relate to certain countries, much as we have the various war categories. Obviously, not every country would need a category. But for example, a United States category would include the U.S., and then Americans, U.S. States, various institutions related to the U.S., like the president. This would be more about user friendliness than anything. We probably wouldn't need to worry too much about stories, but we can discuss that if we adopt my proposal. [[User:TR\|TR]] 02:50, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

-	I'm assuming by the lack of response that no one things much of this idea. [[User:TR\|TR]] 02:16, November 21, 2009 (UTC)	+	I'm assuming by the lack of response that no one thinks much of this idea. [[User:TR\|TR]] 02:16, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
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		+	:In my case it means I somehow missed it. The Recent Changes pages have been filling up so damned fast lately, after all. But I love the idea. In fact, I've lately been toying with the idea of a supercategory overhaul; ideally I'd like to see enough to contain every category we have, so I'm not one for objecting to the creation of new supercategories, not in the least! [[User:Turtle Fan\|Turtle Fan]] 02:32, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

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	Roosevelt first rose to prominence, ironically, as Secretary of War in Democrat President [[Herbert Hoover (Southern Victory)\|Herbert Hoover]]'s cabinet. His Socialist views on domestic policy were out of step with Hoover's lassiez-faire approach to government. For example, Roosevelt was receptive to Colonel [[Abner Dowling]]'s idea of make-work projects in [[Utah (Southern Victory)\|Utah]]. Hoover, on the other hand, emphatically shot it down. However, Roosevelt's views on foreign policy were perfectly aligned with the Democrats, particularly as it applied to the [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]].		Roosevelt first rose to prominence, ironically, as Secretary of War in Democrat President [[Herbert Hoover (Southern Victory)\|Herbert Hoover]]'s cabinet. His Socialist views on domestic policy were out of step with Hoover's lassiez-faire approach to government. For example, Roosevelt was receptive to Colonel [[Abner Dowling]]'s idea of make-work projects in [[Utah (Southern Victory)\|Utah]]. Hoover, on the other hand, emphatically shot it down. However, Roosevelt's views on foreign policy were perfectly aligned with the Democrats, particularly as it applied to the [[Confederate States (Southern Victory)\|Confederate States]].

-	Upon the election of [[Al Smith#Al Smith in Southern Victory\|Al Smith]] to the Presidency in 1936, Roosevelt was, to all appearences, demoted to Assistant Secretary of War. In fact, however, he willingly embraced relative obscurity as a kind of disguise, hiding from the Confederates the importance of what he was engaged on. As [[Jake Featherston]] of the Confederate States began saber-rattling, and war seemed imminent, Roosevelt was given the responsiblity of overseeing the United States [[superbomb]] project in [[Hanford (Southern Victory)\|Hanford]], [[Washington (Southern Victory)\|Washington]]. He was also the Administration's point man for dealing with Congresswoman [[Flora Blackford]], a critic of Smith, despite being a Socialist herself. It was Roosevelt who decided to tell Blackford about the classified project.	+	Upon the election of [[Al Smith#Al Smith in Southern Victory\|Al Smith]] to the Presidency in 1936, Roosevelt was, to all appearances, demoted to Assistant Secretary of War. In fact, however, he willingly embraced relative obscurity as a kind of disguise, hiding from the Confederates the importance of what he was engaged on. As [[Jake Featherston]] of the Confederate States began saber-rattling, and war seemed imminent, Roosevelt was given the responsiblity of overseeing the United States [[superbomb]] project in [[Hanford (Southern Victory)\|Hanford]], [[Washington (Southern Victory)\|Washington]]. He was also the Administration's point man for dealing with Congresswoman [[Flora Blackford]], a critic of Smith, despite being a Socialist herself. It was Roosevelt who decided to tell Blackford about the classified project.

	Roosevelt maintained that position throughout the Second Great War, even after Smith was killed, and [[Charles W. La Follette]] became president. Although the C.S. was the first country in North America to use a superbomb, detonating it in downtown [[Philadelphia (Southern Victory)\|Philadelphia]], Roosevelt's program produced two bombs for the U.S., accelerating U.S victory in 1944.		Roosevelt maintained that position throughout the Second Great War, even after Smith was killed, and [[Charles W. La Follette]] became president. Although the C.S. was the first country in North America to use a superbomb, detonating it in downtown [[Philadelphia (Southern Victory)\|Philadelphia]], Roosevelt's program produced two bombs for the U.S., accelerating U.S victory in 1944.